| Mightymouse | Msg #401 14-10-2014 02:52 pm Hi Based on Magnum 3D data, Predicted system 9645 Permutation direct would be 9654, 6459, 9645 Goodluck everyone |
| luc (Sifu) | Msg #402 14-10-2014 03:25 pm Hi Mightymouse "...is there much simple way to gather such info even if I extract it from various 4D2u, myfreepost even from free trial superease? ..." I am afraid not, bro. No other simpler way but tracking through manual updating after ever draw. I had been searching through ALL online 4d website for such a search tool but, to date, none can program their software to track 3DTP in the manner that I would like it to be, ie. if they even understand what 3DTP is all about to begin with. Even those paid websites which have sophisticated analyzing tool to analyze numbers in whichever ways and directions that you can think of, also do not have such a search tool as yet. I had tried explaining my 3DTP method to one of the more prominent paid 4D website, when the founder there was asking me about my 3DTP method after I had posted plenty podium prizes winning tixs every month, but even he too did not comprehend what I was explaining to him. So finally I just started my own manual tracking of a handful of potential 3DTPs, supplemented by an excel file created by Bro Giugno which monitors all the various 3Ds out there. But from experience, I had learnt that it is not really necessary to monitor ALL the 3Ds available in a 4d games. There are a few HUNDREDS of them and the updating of each and everyone of these 3DTPs, after every single draw, are really a pain in the butt. I had learnt that it is sufficient to select just half a dozen of 3DTPs or so, whenever they are entering into their T3 stage, for monitoring. And each time when one of them hit podium, then I move on to the next potential one. Works like clockwork....one after another and then the next one and so on......1 - 3 podium hits per month. No need to monitor all of them as we wont be able to afford to play them all at one time anyway. Ideal is about playing 2 -3 sets of 3DTPs at any one time, depending on individual resources. This is as far as I would wanna elaborate on the 3DTP Method out in the open forum here. Dun wanna kill the golden goose by whoever may be watching this forum. Bro Giugno had passed on the excel files to some of the members here but whether they do catch the gist of the method is another thing altogether. About the vibration method, it sounds about similar to the 3DTP method. Of course if you are aiming for Top3 prizes, the data (whether it is 1d, 2d or 3ds) must be coming from the podium prizes group past results. The 3DTP method also practices this approach. It is how you assemble the data and extrapolate out of it that may be the difference. |
| luc (Sifu) | Msg #403 14-10-2014 03:35 pm Wow Mickeymouse....your number really looks nice for SG though....lol. Over here, it will be aiming HIGH and shooting for the Star. Just curious.....which of the Magnum 3D data are you analyzing from ? 456, 459, 469 or 569 ? |
| Mightymouse | Msg #404 14-10-2014 03:45 pm Thank you Sifu luc For SGPools, I would go for system 9763 (I believe you too) Direct number would be 6973, 9637, 7369, 9763, 7936 All my 3D data are from Sifu giugno128, 3D Excel and I double check with 4D2u. |
| luc (Sifu) | Msg #405 14-10-2014 03:47 pm @Mickey Just a very brief glance at your number at Magnum (I dun do commenting much on others' numbers, k).... The 4d itself ,while it is ok for SG, may be a little bit too stretched out for Magnum. Needs a good 70 - 80 % dosage of Luck to materialize. 3D-wise......I am worried for 3d 469....it may needs a breather for 1 or 2 draws before showing. All the other 3ds are fine though. Just my 2 cents......it was just a minute glance at the data only. No in depth analysis done, k. G'luck !~ |
| luc (Sifu) | Msg #406 14-10-2014 03:56 pm @ Mickey " All my 3D data are from Sifu giugno128, 3D Excel and I double check with 4D2u." Oh no, I think you misunderstood my question. Not asking you where you get your source of data from. What I mean is that if you wanna derived a final 4d number to play based on 3D, then you would have to check the possibility of ALL the sets of 3Ds to appear for the next draw, that makes up that 4d number. Errr...you do know that in a 4D number there are 4 sets of 3Ds, right ? I believe bro Giugno must have told you that before. For a 4d number to appear in a draw, ALL the 4 sets of 3Ds that make up that number MUST appear. Any one of the 3d fails to appear, your number will miss by 1 digit. The 4 sets of 3ds that makes up the 4d number 4569 are : 456, 459, 469 and 569. ALL these 3ds must have the ability to appear in the next draw before system 4569 can be a hit. Therefore my question was, which of these four sets of 3ds that your analyzed number 4569 was based on ? |
| Mightymouse | Msg #407 14-10-2014 04:00 pm As for the direct numbers, I am using the 3D (direct) search in 4D2u combined the Sifu giugno128's vibration method to derive... Just testing, do not want to sped too much on permutations. GooDLuck |
| luc (Sifu) | Msg #408 14-10-2014 04:02 pm For Magnum players, if you are aiming for podiums, try and have the digit "1" in your numbers. |
| luc (Sifu) | Msg #409 14-10-2014 04:08 pm Whether it is for direct number or permutation, the same principle applies, ie. all the 3ds components of that direct number must appear in that draw before it can be a hit. 4D prediction is easier to start with permutations numbers before one "graduates" to directs. Directs are a different ball game altogether. Involves a lot on the factor of Luck. |
| Mightymouse | Msg #410 14-10-2014 04:08 pm OH. I am using the common concept. 3DTP is a subset of 3D normal. WHen I spotted a potential 3D 964 in 3D normal. there is no hit in Oct yet, I will check for the 3DTP. If further 3DTP confirmed that this 3D is due or overdue, I put a mark on it. I do the same for 96x, and listed down... with all the listed 96x, then I matched with the first 964.. for this case I have 3 sets of 3D in a STRIKING position and one not so good as you had said. I also check the number trend for 9645.. As for direct numbers, already explained above. Thanks Sifu |
| John (Sifu) | Msg #411 14-10-2014 04:54 pm Hi sifu luc and mighty mouse, Frankly I think Im the only one missed getting the excel file from sifu giugno128 hehehe on 3DTP......anyone care to share?..........yes i got the picture of 3DTP but i really never got a chance to see sifu giugno128 3DTP excel file.........i have data but i set it in my own made program.........all this while my prediction are based on it!!! I wish to view that file as well! Cheers |
| Mightymouse | Msg #412 14-10-2014 04:58 pm Sorry SIfu John Mine are 3D for SGPools and Magnum. Do not have DaMaCai. |
| John (Sifu) | Msg #413 14-10-2014 05:07 pm Hi Mighty Mouse, At this point of prediction you are correct but you need to fine tune......i could not comment much on 3DTP.....i hope u understand not my area..... Something for you to think about for magnum podium 61xx 01xx 31xx Additional possibilities 63xx 60xx Cheers |
| Mightymouse | Msg #414 14-10-2014 05:09 pm Thank you Sifu John |
| luc (Sifu) | Msg #415 14-10-2014 05:20 pm @ Mickey "...there is no hit in Oct yet...." ?? I think either theres something wrong in your data or I am not reading you correctly. Are you saying that you had spotted for Magnum 3D 964 because under the normal 3D search (direct search) in 4d2u there was NO hit in Oct yet ?? Is that right ? My data shows that there was a 3d 964 direct hit on the 12/10 - 9642 Conso. If you are looking for potential 3d to play, you would have to look at the past data for all its permutations, eg. 469, 496, 649, 694, 946 and 964. If you only search 3d normal of 964 in 4d2u, you will not see the complete past appearances for sys 3d 469. Only those numbers which have 964 grouped together in sequence. Thats a very risky thing as you would then be basing your analysis on a false assumption of that 3ds past performances. Refer to my MSG#268 about the risk in searching for 3Ds in 4d2u. It has its limitation and can only display direct 3d searches. Fyi, system 3d 469 in Magnum had already made SIX hits so far in Oct,with the last one in the last previous draw. The full complete data of sys 469 performances in Oct should be this : 1 12-Oct-2014 Sun 9642 60 2 08-Oct-2014 Wed 4396 60 3 07-Oct-2014 Tue 4896 200 4 05-Oct-2014 Sun 6394 60 5 05-Oct-2014 Sun 9684 200 6 01-Oct-2014 Wed 9436 200 Furthermore, I am not sure how you go about checking for the 3DTP of sys 469. In 3DTP what we check for is the 3DTP Gaps. Also fyi, it is now at Gap 8, after having hit 1st Prize in 14/9/2014 (6149). So why is this 3D due or overdue for podium prizes now ?? Short, medium or long gap expectation ? Sorry, maybe we are not talking on the same page and are talking at cross purpose.....I am really confused with what you had said, man. |
| Mightymouse | Msg #416 14-10-2014 05:23 pm Thank you Sifu luc, I will check my work |
| luc (Sifu) | Msg #417 14-10-2014 05:28 pm Hi John I had that file which was sent to me a few months ago. But like I had said I did not update all the few hundreds of 3ds after every draw so it has became obsolete and I had deleted it away. Am only just monitoring half a dozen of 3DTPs at one time, which are more than sufficient, IMO. That file is actually just the past data of all 3ds appearances and its up to oneself to identify and try to spot the average gap of the 3d which may hit podium. If you have the patience to, you can also create one yrself in an excel file. |
| John (Sifu) | Msg #418 14-10-2014 05:34 pm Magnum and sg pool will be fine you can send it to me.....Im still doing research on all counter even though i play 1 counter.......... john_m8888 at yahoo com Thank you |
| John (Sifu) | Msg #419 14-10-2014 05:40 pm Hi Sifu Luc, Ok but just for my curiosity.....hehehe But any members want to share i always welcome Thank you and cheers |
| Mightymouse | Msg #420 14-10-2014 11:39 pm Good morning Sifus I spotted my mistake. Using the wrong data set to workout, should be Magnum data instead I used SG data. Thank you. |