| luc (Sifu) | Msg #661 26-03-2014 07:06 pm SGPools 4D - 1st Prize 2031 (26/3) Recap : " Also, as a "hello gift", as this is my 1st time here, here are some heads-up for 3ds (under the 3DTP method) which have the potential to appear Top Prizes (TPs) in the next few draws for Sgpools :- 3ds 456, 123 & 368...." "..Digits with "0", "2" and "3" are good for podium prizes for tomorrow draw (26/3). 3Ds 123 and 3Ds 456 are potential candidates for TPs for the next few draws. 3DTP method indicates that for 123x, TPs hits will fall within the next 0-5 Gaps....." Ok, 3DTP 123 did hit T3 (1st prize somemore) in SG 4D today (26/3) at 0 gap (faster than I would have like it to be, as it is not my Top priority no.yet and I bot only $10 i-bet. If its sys 1235 and 1236 it would be boom town charlie coz they were my Top priority numbers. Oh well.....at least didnt let the 1st prize escape) 3D 368 hits starter sys 2368. Got it too. 3DTP 456 really skips a draw, as I had feared. Its on for the weekend then. |
| luc (Sifu) | Msg #662 26-03-2014 07:20 pm Hi chocolatefudge, If you are referring to gaps for 3Ds to appear in ALL prize group, u cud easily see it in website like 4D2U. Each time when that particular 3d appear in a draw, just count it as 1 gap. Thats all. But for 3DTP it is different. I too have been looking around for an analyzing tool to count the T3 gaps for 3d easier. But up to now, I am afraid there are none out there. I had tried to explain to some IT expert in one of the so-call paid 4d website to come out with such a tool for to search for 3DTP, but too bad they catch no balls what I am talking about. Geeezzz.....and they are supposed to be the 4d gurus somemore. Oh well..... So, if u have access to a 3d search tool which also provides the prize group that the number had struck each time it appears, then u will have to manually count the gaps in between T3 hits. And for accuracy u will have to start from Day 1, i.e. 1986 of the database (for SGpool that is, I dunno about other gaming operators in M'sia). So, u see, it isnt that easy eh ? But like what they say, if something is so easy, it probably aint gonna worth a shit too, rite ? ;) |
| kiolip | Msg #663 26-03-2014 08:09 pm Hi members RESULTS - Pandora 4D System For 26 March 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ W...X...Y....Z 4....6...6....7 8....3...1....9 1....7...2....5 9....4...5....0 SABAH 4D: 1st-6774 2nd-1804 STC 4D: No Hits MAGNUM: 1st-0644 2nd-7429 DAMACAI 1+3D: 1st-3402 3rd-0639 TOTO 4D: 1st-7214 2nd-4867 3rd-1736 (Home Run) CASHSWEEP: 1st-5196 3rd-0486 SGPOOLS: 1st-2031 2nd-5847 3rd-8041 (Home Run) Congrat to members who are laughing tonight!!! |
| chocolatefudge | Msg #664 26-03-2014 08:31 pm Thanks for your quick reply LuC ... and thank you for inputs, it certainly helps this forum to become more useful, looking forward towards coming draws. However, by following the steps provided from this forum has certainly increased my odds ( plus some of my own read) , I normally play only 2 numbers, and I have got both of the 3Ds right, just the tricky 1D keeping me from winning. Anyways, hope everyone wins big in coming draws and congratulation to those who are smiling tonight. |
| firefly | Msg #665 26-03-2014 09:09 pm sifu giugno128 sifu giugno 128, i yet master skill 2D either 3D, i had been read the msg on December how to learn the hot and cold number. but still can't get the point.. my brain a bit slow respond to learn something, sorry. |
| glla4d | Msg #666 26-03-2014 09:14 pm ref # 688 kiolip, may I know how u derived Magnum 0644 ????? |
| kiolip | Msg #667 26-03-2014 11:19 pm hi glla4d, the above results are not my hit no. there are the top three results from PANDORA 4D crated by sifu giugno128. every draw there will always be top three hit from PANDORA 4D, but just need the Mr. Luck with u to choose the right no from it. we are so lucky to have sifu giugno128 here to teach us, very much thanks for him and best4 master sifu. thanks also to bro luc for willing to share with us his 3DTP method. |
| glla4d | Msg #668 27-03-2014 08:10 am kiolip, i know u are just doing us a favor. But what about Mag 3rd - 2463 ? Y dont u list it down ? |
| giugno128 (Sifu) | Msg #669 27-03-2014 08:59 am Hi bro kiolip & bro glla4d Thank you kiolip for listing the results post for Pandora 4D Hi glla4d The current Pandora 4D did not have Magnum 3rd - 2463. That is the reason bro kiolip did not put in the post. Good luck |
| giugno128 (Sifu) | Msg #670 27-03-2014 12:39 pm Hi firefly It ok for slow learner. No need to say Sorry.... Take you time to read and learn. For the time being, just used what been posted in this forum. Surely you can pick up some good numbers for your 4D. Be clam and Lady Luck will be beside you. Good Luck in coming draws. |
| firefly | Msg #671 27-03-2014 03:26 pm sifu giugno128 Here is the results for magnum, i followed bro moonsong to calculate the higher and lower digits from first prizes to the last consolation.total must be 92. how should i chosen the Hot and Cold? here is my problem, i spot some digits are same.. 01012014 0 = 13 Times, 1 = 6 Times, 2 = 9 Times, 3 = 11 Times, 4 = 8 Times, 5 = 10 Times, 6 = 9 Times, 7 = 11 Times, 8 = 6 Times, 9 = 9 Times. |
| giugno128 (Sifu) | Msg #672 27-03-2014 03:51 pm Hi firefly The listing of the 92 digits for each draw can be found in the web site. Myfreepost . You need not to work out yourself. Secondly, I do not understand your 01012014... My suggestion is that you drop the hot cold method & follow whichever 2D or 3D being posted. One big problem with bro moosangs method is you need to establish the ratio of hot cold for the current trend and forecast the ratio for coming draw. I believe this part u also not sure. Therefore drop the method. Good luck |
| firefly | Msg #673 27-03-2014 03:56 pm sifu giugno128 OK, sifu giugno128, followed your guide. |
| kiolip | Msg #674 27-03-2014 04:38 pm hi glla4d this is how we derive the no from PANDORA 4D Pandora 4D (Every draws there always some hits....) Forming your System 4D numbers as follows: a) Choose only ONE digit in each Column to form 4Ds. b) 4Ds formed are system numbers. Examples: Choose Column W: 2 Column X: 5 Column Y: 5 Column Z: 0 to form 2550 Choose Column W: 1 Column X: 7 Column Y:5 Column Z: 7 to form 1757 W...X...Y....Z 4....6...6....7 8....3...1....9 1....7...2....5 9....4...5....0 so, as u see magnum 1st prize was derived from column W: 4 column X: 4 column Y: 6 column Z: 0 = 4460 |
| kiolip | Msg #675 27-03-2014 04:41 pm Correction Examples: Choose Column W: 4 Column X: 6 Column Y: 6 Column Z: 7 to form 4667 Choose Column W: 1 Column X: 7 Column Y:5 Column Z: 7 to form 1757 |
| luffy | Msg #676 27-03-2014 08:27 pm Hi Sifu & all, Greetings to all. Newbie here, been involved with 4D magnum for about 2 months now. Previously only punching numbers using intuition, in which never put a smile on my face. Its my own mistakes anyway. So i decided to narrow down my number with a better and systematic way. Google around and fortunately found u guys. Your forum catch my eyes and yet after go through few threads, found out that there is truly a lots of high capability person in this group and a lot of stuff i can learn to narrow down the probability of the draw. As i'm new in this arena of so call 'deciphering' the pattern of the draw, i might need extra effort to catch up with u guys considering that i'm scratching from zero and may i present my humble apologize to all members of this forum especially sifu because there will be a lot of questions coming out from me later on. |
| luffy | Msg #677 27-03-2014 09:08 pm Hi sifu giugno128, I've been working to derive the Pandora 4D. Anyhow, for W:4 alone matching with X Y Z, the probabilities numbers have been total up to 132 numbers. So far haven't done with the elimination zone yet (will looking up to past data at this point, and point out the gap). Considering there are W:8 and W:1 to be match up with X Y Z as well, stop a while to ask, am i doing the derivation correct? or am i already put the effort for nothing? Thanks anyway. |
| giugno128 (Sifu) | Msg #678 27-03-2014 10:08 pm Hi luffy I have no idea of your purpose of Pandora derivation? If you want to expand the numbers of the Pandora 4D system, it can be done in Excel. But the numbers are system numbers and some may be repeated ones. To eliminate numbers, first of all you need to concentrate ONLY ONE counter to do that. If you eliminate for all counters, you are going round and round and round without reaching your goal. If you are using Pandora 4D's 256 numbers minus away those strike numbers (23 numbers in every draw), then my advise is that you are wasting your time, at the end you would not reach what you want to have. Reasons, numbers strike in podiums may appear in Special/Starters and Consolations. Same the numbers hit Special/Starters/Consolations, will appear in podiums. All these can be seen in the records of the results. Why Pandora 4D is so successful not because of the 4 x 4 matrix, is the 256 numbers that work wonders.. By using eliminations or reductions in Pandora may works up to certain extends, after that you will feel totally loss. Back to topic, I do not know the concept of your reductions on Pandora..... I would rather you spend time studying the digits trend/patterns, either 2D or 3D and lastly 4D. Good Luck |
| giugno128 (Sifu) | Msg #679 27-03-2014 10:22 pm To support what I means, let takes last Magnum's 1st prize number. Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2002......................1.......................................1 2003 1 2 1 1 1 2004 1 2 2 1 2005 2 1 2006 1 2 1 2008 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 2009 1 1 2 1 2 2 2010 1 1 1 2 2011 1 2 1 2 2012 2 2 3 2013 1 1 1 2014 2 1 Above shows that the number 0644 hits 3 times in 2013, Apr, May & Sep hits 3 times in 2014, 2 in Feb 2014 & 1 in March 2013 All these are monthly/yearly trend I am talking about. Pandora 4D is system with numbers that are monthly/yearly trend system. It not easy to create Pandora 4D without taking monthly/yearly trends of the numbers as guide. Good Luck |
| luffy | Msg #680 27-03-2014 10:36 pm Hi sifu giugno128 Yup, in order to expend from pandora, i'm using the primitive method,excel. Seems to be the wrong way though. Will stop right away. Anyways, it consume the precious time. Sorry for the basic quest, bit blur here but what do you mean by ONLY ONE counter? and the counter is referring to....? nuff said, too fresh to catch up. Anyhow, will looking forward to your advice to study digits trend/patterns, either 2D or 3D ( by right i should go through all the threads on 2D/3D first before come to 4D, correct?). No idea where to start the homework but i will try my best not to annoy anyone here because of basic quest. Just learning and get the idea. Next draw is getting near and i'm trying hard to catch up. Thanks sifu. |